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TOPIC: Teachers that carry guns in school will kill students

Teachers that carry guns in school will kill students 5 months 3 weeks ago #7848

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Before and after the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, there has been a lot of talk about allowing teachers to carry guns. This could be a good idea in some schools, where the parents work and the kids are motivated to learn because 1) their parents demand it, 2) the kids know they need a good education to get a good job that pays better than minimum wage. As a result, students are peaceful and cooperate with teachers to further their own education.

However, arming teachers in inner city schools, where I teach, is a very bad, bad idea. In many inner city schools, the primary source of income for parents is welfare. The primary motivation of some parents and students is to manipulate the system to get more welfare. When girls turn 18, and mom no longer gets welfare for that girl, then the girl gets pregnant and goes on welfare. Many times, girls intentionally get pregnant before they are 18 because they want their own welfare check and their own apartment.

Of course boys are needed to impregnate a graduating class of girls every year. Inner city boys make a game of bragging about how many student girls they get pregnant each year. Jobless, career criminal boys cannot pay reliable child support. High school dropout boys would have to get a job paying $40,000 per year (in Ohio) up to $70,000 per year (in New York) just to equal the all the welfare benefits that a dropout high school girl gets just by getting pregnant. The girls want welfare anyway, so girls just say they do not know who is the father.

For the boys and the girls, it becomes a badge of honor to get the girls pregnant with fatherless children. She gets on with her career path as a welfare mom for life. They all get to screw around, brag about it, and make tax payers pay for the fatherless babies from crib to college.

That all works fine from the girls’ point of view. But for boys, they cannot get pregnant, get a welfare check, a free apartment, free food, free clothes, free medical care, and have dozens of solicitous government workers cater to their every need and validate a chosen life path to live on welfare for life. Boys must leave mom's house when they turn 18 and mom no longer gets welfare to support an under age child. Then, inner city boys often make their living off of crime, running drugs, and murdering other boys who are their competitors, as many of them have already been doing long before they turned 18.

How does this relate to arming teachers in schools. Simple, inner city students often assault teachers just for the fun of it. True that. Many school administrators will not allow teachers to write up students no matter how severe the student's crime, because the administrators and politicians do not want a record of student criminal behavior. School administrators and politicians are busy promoting their myth that the primary reason inner city youth do not work is because of white racism.

Now, teachers without guns are often the target of student assaults. Soon, teachers with guns will be mugged, robbed, and killed because criminals (youth and adults) know that teachers and schools have guns. Also, it will happen that some teachers will have to defend themselves from assault and robbery to keep their gun from being stolen. Then teachers will kill students.

Finally, every year, COPs shoot themselves by accident, drop guns when going to the toilet, or simply misplace and lose their gun. Teachers will do the same, but in schools this time. When teachers have guns, it will become a great game for students to discover where the teacher keeps his gun and to steal the gun. It will come to pass that students will shoot other students with guns that were brought to school by teachers.

The better solution is to put 2 police officers in every school. Two officers are needed to counter an armed invaders. As we found out from the Florida high school shooting, 1, 2, 3, and 4 officers were present during the shooting, but they did not even enter the building. So, at least two policemen will be needed in every school. The policemen would be trained to work as a team to take down an armed invader. During rush hour, the officers would oversee metal detectors at the school entrances. The rest of the time, one officer could patrol the school, while the other officer follows up on leads and social media threats to the school. They would know student and local trouble makers and coordinate with the FBI, and local and state law enforcement.

Costs: On average, it costs $125,000 per year to pay and equip police officers. As an example, Seattle, WA, has 91 public schools, which would require 182 police officers, plus supervisors and administrators. Approximate that at 200 officers. 200 x $125,000 per year = $25 Million per year. That equals only 3% of Seattle's $858 Million school budget for 2018. (Cost will vary by city and state.) Increasing the school district budget by 3% or simply reassigning 3% of the budget to school safety is very doable.

What say you, are 2 police officers in every school the best way to save student lives? Or, should trained teachers carry guns in school?

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Teachers that carry guns in school will kill students 1 month 3 weeks ago #7894

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I think that guns aren’t the answer. Giving more guns to people will only lead to one thing: more violence. I think that’s a certainty. What you focus on grows. Why not (like you mentioned) have a few armed guards in schools? I’m talking about people that know how to handle a gun, not teachers. This will reduce incidents for sure. Also why aren’t we focusing on reducing guns overall? If we want a peaceful society we need to think about peace, not guns. I agree that we need to feel protected but giving teachers guns is not going to lead to that.

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Teachers that carry guns in school will kill students 1 month 1 week ago #7905

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I agree with what you’ve said and think teachers should teach and not handle guns in school. Unfortunately, accidents are bound to happen and teachers may end up shooting kids or kids may get their hands on the weapons and it will be far worse than now. I think that selecting prepared people that could guard schools is much better. Doing a background check on them to make sure they are a good fit for this is a must. And yes, we are focusing too much of our time and effort on war, guns, and terrorism and way too little on the things that matter and can bring peace.

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